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Wednesday, May 31, 2023

Is the Energy Return of Renewables Really Higher than that of Fossil Fuels? A Rebuttal to Art Berman's Criticism

 


The "net energy cliff," a popular graphic often used to demonstrate that renewables will never be able to support an industrial society. It is mostly wrong or at least obsolete. The EROI of crude oil never was so high as shown here, and the idea that there is a "minimum EROI needed" to support modern society is debatable, to say the least.


It is a very good thing that Art Berman, a well-known expert in oil and fossil fuel matters, has intervened in the EROI debate on renewables with a recent post. It means that the EROI is becoming the focus of the debate, as it should be. The most recent data indicate that the EROI of renewables significantly surpasses that of oil when examined at the "point of use" rather than at the "well mouth." And, of course, as users of energy, the point of use it is what we are interested in.


First of all, a note: nowadays, the debate on the energy transition is almost purely political. As such, it is based on slogans, and we know that slogans are not based on data or facts. So, it is a pleasure to see that Art Berman, a well-known expert in matters related to oil and fossil fuels, engages in a fact-based debate. That allows me to respond with a different interpretation, still remaining within the boundaries of what a debate should be; with the discussants respecting each other. 

This said, let me go to Berman's criticism which is specifically directed to a recent paper by Murphy et al., where the authors make the point that the EROI of renewables is now significantly larger than that of fossil fuels when a correct comparison is made. 

The problem, here, is that social media are flashing with messages that say that Murphy's paper is "wrong" or that it contains "mathematical errors." It is not true, but when everybody keeps repeating the same thing, it becomes true. It has already happened with the 1972 study, "The Limits to Growth," which was said so often to contain "wrong predictions" that it became common knowledge that it did. Except that it didn't. But that's the way the memesphere works. 

I think that the element that has generated the idea of "errors" in Murphy's paper is described here by Berman.
  

This statement from that paper was a huge red flag for me.

“Even if crude oil were measured to have an EROI of 1000 or more at the point of extraction, the corresponding EROI at the point of use, using global average data for the energy “cost” of the process chain, would still only be a maximum of 8.7.”

This means that the supply-chain energy costs for refining and product distribution create a permanent penalty that prevents oil from reaching an EROI of more than 8.7. It furthermore implies that refining must be a marginally profitable business at best which it is not.


At first sight, the statement by Murphy et al., looks strange, even unreasonable. But it is not so. It is a correct interpretation of how the concept of EROI works. 

The EROI is the ratio of the energy produced to the energy spent to make a certain energy production system work. It is something deeply embedded in the concept of "biophysical economics." It derives from the idea that the human economy works in the same way as an ecosystem. Not just because they have the same term "eco" (from the Greek oikos) in the name, but because they are both "dissipation structures," in the sense described by Prigogine long ago. A dissipation structure turns energy into waste or, if you prefer, does its job of increasing the entropy of the universe. (see some references at the bottom of this post).

So, the EROI is analogous to the economic return on investments. In mathematical terms, it is the same as the "effective reproduction rate" in biology, and also to the "reproduction number" (Rt) that was so fashionable during the pandemic, when people struggled to "flatten the curve." In EROI terms, they were striving to reduce the EROI of virus replication. The opposite of what we are trying to do with energy sources!

Unfortunately, as they say, "the devil is in the details," and the discussion on EROI is affected by misunderstandings and by the unavoidable uncertainty involved in evaluating complicated systems such as the oil industry. The paper by Murphy et al. that Berman discusses is aimed at clarifying a fundamental problem: "energy" is a well-defined physical quantity, but we are not interested in energy as such, but in energy potentials. A concept that defines how much useful work can be obtained from energy. The energy potential is a mix of the two fundamental concepts of energy and entropy. We are interested in, basically, how much entropy we can create using what we call an "energy source" (sun, oil, wind, whatever). 

And here is the point of the discussion: you can measure the energy embedded in a barrel of oil and compare it to the energy embedded in a lithium battery. But the battery will dissipate that energy in the form of electric power at more than 90% efficiency. To obtain the same amount of work from the oil contained in the barrel, you have to go through a series of steps, including transporting, processing, refining, more transporting, and finally burning it inside a thermal engine that, typically, has an efficiency of about 30%. Not all energies are created equal!

That's the key point of the reasoning in Murphy's paper. They note, correctly, that the EROI of crude oil is often measured at the "mine mouth" or "well mouth." That is, it does not include the energy lost in the various steps needed to turn the oil into useful energy. They use the term EROI(POU) (point of use) to indicate the correct way of estimating the EROI of crude oil when it is a question of comparing it with that of solar or wind energy, which directly produce useful electric energy. 

In this procedure, it is perfectly reasonable that the EROI of oil at the "mine mouth" or "well mouth" has no importance in determining the EROI at the point of use (POU). It is because a multi-stage EROI chain works like a metal chain: it is as strong as its weakest link. In the ratio of "Energy Out" to "Energy In," the first term is the energy produced by the last step of the chain, instead, the "Energy in" is the energy lost (and hence in need to be replaced) at each step. We could write that:

EROI = Eout/(Ein(1) + Ein(2) + Ein(3) +.....).

And you see that if, say, Ein(2) (refining) is much larger than Ein(1) (extraction), then reducing Ein(1) (increasing the EROI of extraction) will have no significant effect on the overall EROI. Note that in this view, all energy inputs are treated as the same. They may not be in terms of monetary costs, but it is another matter. 

Having established that Murphy et al.'s proposal that oil's EROI is no more than 8.7 is not a mistake but a correct interpretation of the definition of EROI, we need to examine whether it is a likely interpretation of the current situation. Berman criticizes it on the basis of several observations; for instance, that it would mean that refining would be at best an unprofitable business, which is not. 

I trust Art completely if he says that refining is profitable. But we don't have a precise correspondence between profitability and EROI. Besides, if we think of an EROI of 8.7 in financial terms, you would be very happy the return on your investment is more than 8 times the capital invested! The problem, here, is that the EROI is a ratio of two energy flows, but it says nothing about how large these flows are. If they are very small, of course, it matters little how large the EROI is. Here, Berman makes a correct point when he notes that, 

"Society does not function and survive on the per-unit net energy to society but on the full-system net energy delivered to society. This is like saying that I can solve my personal financial problems by delivering newspapers because the per-unit returns are so high. The net income from the paper route is so small, however, that it wouldn’t even help with the monthly escrow payment on my mortgage."

Equivalently, we could say that engaging in a career as a beggar requires a very small initial investment, and hence it has a high ROI, but it is not a good way to make a living. Nevertheless, while this is true in financial terms, in terms of energy production it is a restatement of what I called the "Godzilla Egg" fallacy: a small egg does not mean that the adult creature will be small. Obviously, renewables will not solve any problem as long as the energy they provide to society is small -- no matter how low the cost. But, of course, renewables can grow

Their potential of renewables in terms of solar energy available is enormous, even though we may run into other kinds of limitations in terms of mineral resources. But, at present, these limits are not preventing renewables from growing fast, and their good EROI indicates that the materials used can be effectively recycled using the energy that renewables themselves produce. Some European economies already produce half or more of their electric power from renewable sources, for instance, Germany. So, it is possible to move onward and create a sustainable energy infrastructure that will last for a long time and that will sustain a resilient human civilization, not anymore depending on the vagaries of the depletion of mineral energy resources.   

There are many more points that could be discussed in relation to Berman's post, mainly about the idea that the low EROI of fossil fuels cannot be so low as some studies indicate because it would be insufficient to sustain a complex industrial civilization such as ours. That would require a long discussion. Let me just say, here, that the "minimum EROI needed" for civilization is, at best, a debatable concept and that the value of "5-7" should be understood as highly uncertain, to say the least. 

I think these are the main elements of the story. If you want to know more about the concept of EROI as an essential element of biophysical economics, I suggest two recent papers that I published together with my coworkers Perissi and Lavacchi

The Role of Energy Return on Energy Invested (EROEI) in Complex Adaptive Systems, by Ilaria Perissi, Alessandro Lavacchi, and Ugo Bardi), Energies, 2021

Peaking Dynamics of the Production Cycle of a Nonrenewable Resource, by Ilaria Perissi, Alessandro Lavacchi, and Ugo Bardi, Sustainability 2023


Wednesday, June 16, 2021

Government of the lobbies, by the lobbies, for the lobbies. How can we hope to ever move in the right direction?

 

Above: a tweet by the French Minister of Transportation on June 14, 2021 -- translated into English. 

This post is not directly about hydrogen, but it deals with the capability of our politicians of planning on any field related to energy. Mr. Djebbari shows such a total misunderstanding of the quantitative aspects related to the energy transition that goes beyond mere incompetency. It cannot be a bug, it must be a feature of the system.

Djebbari's tweet was noted by Jean-Marc Jancovici, who posted a comment on Linkedin. Here it is, translated into English.

Our Transport Minister sent a tweet last night (French time) to rejoice in the upcoming flight of an A320 with only biofuels, calling it "ecology": https://lnkd.in/dWp-NpK

A few things will help to put this information in context:

- on the day the tweet was sent, there were 85000 commercial flights worldwide (https://lnkd.in/dBFQaXx). If, in order to repay a debt of EUR 85000, you tell your banker that you have found EUR 1 of income, it is unlikely that he will consider that this fundamentally changes the problem.
 
- currently, deforestation is responsible for 10% of greenhouse gas emissions each year. This deforestation has one main determinant: to remove forests to obtain agricultural land. Therefore, a question arises: does not any area devoted to energy crops be tantamount to exacerbating deforestation, by domino effect? If this same area were devoted to food, would we not avoid the associated deforestation? However, if it induces deforestation (directly or indirectly), the production of an agrofuel generates more emissions per liter than oil.
 
In its report "being able to fly in 2050", The Shift Project and SUPAERO DECARBO (which is made up of former students of ISAE, and currently working in the aeronautical sector, so they are not "painters" it seems to me) recalled that, even by selecting all the technical improvements to come in a very, very optimistic way, air traffic had to decrease for this sector to comply with the Paris Agreement. If this conclusion does not seem to you to be well-founded, it should be refuted with convincing "counter-calculations", and nothing else.

And I think it is enough to understand how wrong was Djebbari in praising Airbus and Safran for having engaged in a task that's nothing more than a good example of a greenwashing stunt. Air travel will never be based on biofuels, at least not on this planet. But just in case you would like to have some more detailed data, take a look at this post where I try to estimate how many people would die of starvation according to the fraction of the world's food supply would be allocated to produce aviation fuels. 

The situation with hydrogen is not very different, although there is no obvious limit to the amount that could be produced using renewable energy, the problems involved in converting the aviation industry to using hydrogen as fuel are nightmarish, to say the least.

Whether we deal with biofuels or with hydrogen, I think there are at least 4 hypotheses to frame the issue

1. Politicians are truly unable to grasp the simplest quantitative aspects of energy production. They are truly ignorant and careless and they refuse to be taught by those who know more than they do. That's called at times the "Dunning-Kruger Effect," but no matter how you call it, it is very common. 

2. Politicians know that they are lying, but they lie for political reasons ("white man speak with two forked tongue") In this case, the French Minister Djebbari thought he could gain a little visibility for himself by means of a potshot at Greenpeace and it is just what he did. 

3. Politicians lie because they are on the payroll of powerful lobbies. In this case, we would have to imagine that the aviation lobby, or the fossil fuel lobby, organized a little PR stunt by flying a plane on 100% biofuels and they enlisted the transport minister to give visibility to it. Of course, in this case, everybody knows it is a scam, but then this is how PR works. 

4. All the three hypotheses above are true to a certain extent.

 

So, given the situation, our government system can be defined as "by the lobbies, for the lobbies, in the name of the lobbies." I don't have to tell you that the challenge to to solve problems that are not just urgent, but vital is a little difficult.